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Post by WilleB on Sept 19, 2018 23:13:40 GMT -5
Not sure many will share their secrets. As a far as a playbook, I use an off-version of the Boise St. offense. I use it in all leagues. The tough part is getting the right OC to run the same amount of plays so you can use the same game plans. I've had very little luck in that area! I think I'm really close in finding my system and identifying players I need to run what I want to do on offense. Defense is still a mystery as I feel Jim skipped that and you just get the best you can. Will look forward to whatever insight you guys want to offer on that side of the ball.
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Post by nick on Sept 20, 2018 2:08:18 GMT -5
I have got stung making my own plays more than once, trying to be clever. It seemed I wasnt giving the AI what it wanted to see. I tend to set it to 1 and Rex 200 plays now. Then make sure my primary receivers at least have a couple of each pass pattern. Remove guys who I really don't want to throw to. That is it for me.
I think defense is garbage and a rushed ad on. Seems unfinished. All calls are too samey making gameplans pretty pointless.
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Post by thefatcat on Sept 20, 2018 5:35:02 GMT -5
I have got stung making my own plays more than once, trying to be clever. It seemed I wasnt giving the AI what it wanted to see. I tend to set it to 1 and Rex 200 plays now. Then make sure my primary receivers at least have a couple of each pass pattern. Remove guys who I really don't want to throw to. That is it for me. I think defense is garbage and a rushed ad on. Seems unfinished. All calls are too samey making gameplans pretty pointless. I agree with Nick here on defense for sure. I won a Bowl with my own designed playbook in the FFL with an average roster, I went 5-11 I think with the same GP in the RBZ, so i feel the offensive game planning works it just has to match what your players do well. If you are in multiple leagues I think that is very hard to achieve as time restraints stop you changing different gameplans in different leagues to fit your personnel.
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Post by ezlee2 on Sept 20, 2018 8:17:03 GMT -5
I have got stung making my own plays more than once, trying to be clever. It seemed I wasnt giving the AI what it wanted to see. I tend to set it to 1 and Rex 200 plays now. Then make sure my primary receivers at least have a couple of each pass pattern. Remove guys who I really don't want to throw to. That is it for me. I think defense is garbage and a rushed ad on. Seems unfinished. All calls are too samey making gameplans pretty pointless. I agree with Nick here on defense for sure. I won a Bowl with my own designed playbook in the FFL with an average roster, I went 5-11 I think with the same GP in the RBZ, so i feel the offensive game planning works it just has to match what your players do well. If you are in multiple leagues I think that is very hard to achieve as time restraints stop you changing different gameplans in different leagues to fit your personnel. *This!
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Post by sawblade300 on Sept 20, 2018 15:48:43 GMT -5
I'm in the process of coming up with a universal game plan that I can use across my leagues. I believe you can do this with different personnel as long as you know who to put where in certain plays. AS I said, I'm just starting to do this. So whether it will actually work or not, remains to be seen.
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Post by manwithnoname on Sept 20, 2018 18:24:33 GMT -5
I wanted to "make" my own playbook this year but got distracted and forgot to do it. I was just going to get rid of plays I didn't like, sort of how Strubbel mentioned he did it. Get rid of plays where the FB/RB are the main targets and get rid of QB power runs and stuff like that. Mainly I just wanted an offense that targets my two WRs the most. I've wanted to change my offensive coordinator for a while. My current guy is pretty good OC but his style is smashmouth and I'd rather have a guy focused on the passing game. But I remember nick said he had some trouble when he changed his OC so I thought as long as I have Danny I'm just going keep him and deal with a playbook that doesn't have the kind of pass plays I'd like.
Worth posting how JulioRiddols says he game plans as his teams usually perform pretty well. "For my odyssey with FOF 8 game planning, I spent a good 4-5 seasons each in about 4 or 5 different leagues getting a feel for the game planning. Started trying to rex everything, then tried building playbook from scratch and gameplanning with that, then let the CPU build a playbook and game planning off that. Got frustrated a few times when Rex really seemed to handicap a couple of my teams with really poor playbooks..
So with all that trial and error behind me, I started to build the playbooks using rex, but only 10 plays at a time. Any play that featured a player I didn't want involved with the offense, I would delete that play. This usually included reverses, throws to TE3, QB runs and throws to my FB in a lot of cases. I eventually got it to the point where I would ensure my playbook featured the players I wanted. Once I had 200 plays with an acceptable number (maybe 3 or 4 total) of those "undesired" plays, I would then go through and "fix" the primary routes or primary targets of the remaining plays so that my top targets had a pretty even number of each route in the playbook. This way, the playbook would be applicable to almost any offensive personnel I might have.. I could then use that playbook for any team that shared the same offensive philosophy. I then went about acquiring OC's who coached the philosophy I wanted to use. Now what I have ended up with is a playbook that works across all my teams, which makes that part of things a lot easier.
Once I got that down, I rexed game plans for a while and noticed it was generally more effective.
The next step was specializing. If I have personnel who are particularly good at something, I try to put a few plays in the game plan for those players to target those specific strengths. The key is to mix them into different situations so they don't get called too often. One thing I think helps with consistency is to have my 3rd down plays to be nearly exclusive.. Those plays are generally nowhere else in my plans except in rare situations like 2 minute drills and other less frequent down and distance scenarios. Theoretically this means the defense doesn't see them and get used to them as the game goes on. Nick's thing about changing up pass distances, formations, run directions, etc.. That's what you want to try and do obviously. You want a mix of plays and a mix of targets while still featuring your bread and butter as frequent as possible without overdoing it. Finding the right balance leads to seasons like Seattle had last year.. That offense was REALLY good, especially in terms of FOF 8.
So now I have one playbook I like, I've been using it across several leagues for at least a couple seasons or so and the results have been good. The game plans for each team are a little different based on personnel and coaching limitations, but I think getting the playbook sorted out has made it easier on both myself and rex to create a game plan that can be more effective than a completely rexed playbook/game plan combo.
On defense I still think Rex does the best job because I haven't really found the key myself. I think it helps to have a secondary who all have a similar skill set so that rex knows better how to use them. If you can't load up on those big red bars, then I'd advise to at least keep the guys on the back end focused on a certain type of coverage so Rex can discern what type of coverages to deploy. I think that helps with consistency when it comes to performance in less than ideal conditions.
I hope that all made sense, its been a long day and I'm not certain I've written the most concise or intelligible description of my process. The above is all anecdotal, just what I've gathered personally from the feel of the game over time without going deep into crunching numbers and percentages.. I think that's the next step to squeezing the full potential out of a team, but I don't have that kind of time and I am too damn stubborn to try and look up any research out there that currently exists."
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